two birds with one stone
one of the great reasons of living in los angeles is sheer amount of interesting things to do. if i had the time (unfortunately i do not) i could have attended two readings of books that have simultaneously found their way to my nightstand. its some pretty great scheduling that both oliver sacks and alex ross are speaking at the la public library within a day of each other.
last night oliver sacks spoke on his book: musicophilia: tales of music and the brain. the amazon link has some good video and his interview with terry gross is available on the fresh air podcast
alex ross is also speaking thursday (10/25/07) night about his book the rest is noise: listening to music in the 20th century.
i didn't feel so bad once i found out that both events were sold out and standing room only. hopefully they will make podcast available of the discussions. so far i have been enjoying reading both of these books.
as a side note, in the 10/17 la weekly owen pallet (toronto-based musician who has created arrangements for indie artists arcade fire, bloc party and beirut...) in a group panel throws a little whoop-ass toward alex with this retort:
in general would agree with most everything he said. although i should point out that i wasn't too impressed with his instrumental "arrangements" for the arcade fire at their hollywood bowl show in sept. his combination of unison baritone horn, french horn and violin inspired my wife to comment "too bad the band has to bring their girlfriends on tour"
on the other hand i really enjoy all the energy that alex puts into writing about the ever growing classical music online community, but i see why his efforts to bring music the masses by way of writing about the mostly dead (in his book) are not my most important reading. i think it is interesting to note that if you compare the contents of his book to michael nyman's experimental music not much has changed since 1974. (more on that another time)
admittedly, i am prejudging his arguments before reading the book (or judging a book by its metaphorical cover), but my intuition says that train has already left the station. its easy to say that when a tune from lcd soundsystem means more to me than what is playing at my local concert hall i think there its fair to ask "the rest is noise?"
last night oliver sacks spoke on his book: musicophilia: tales of music and the brain. the amazon link has some good video and his interview with terry gross is available on the fresh air podcast
alex ross is also speaking thursday (10/25/07) night about his book the rest is noise: listening to music in the 20th century.
i didn't feel so bad once i found out that both events were sold out and standing room only. hopefully they will make podcast available of the discussions. so far i have been enjoying reading both of these books.
as a side note, in the 10/17 la weekly owen pallet (toronto-based musician who has created arrangements for indie artists arcade fire, bloc party and beirut...) in a group panel throws a little whoop-ass toward alex with this retort:
PALLETT: I’m going to come clean. When I think of new classical music, I feel like I need a cup of coffee and an Advil. I write it, listen to it and enjoy it, but honestly, I don’t think that any classical-music form — except the opera — has relevance to a large audience anymore. It’s retrogressive, but also totally intoxicating. Really, who needs an audience when we have our private little concerts to bask in our own technical virtuosity? Show off some idiomatic oboe writing? Why not?
But seriously, I love new classical music, but the world prefers Amy Winehouse, and so do I. New classical composers are fighting an uphill battle for any sort of relevance: trying to make any headway against the huge volume of amazing pop music out there, and also, trying to reinvent forms and ensemble choices that have existed for centuries.
This whole exchange we’ve had seems ?to have been geared toward “opening pop ears up to new classical music,” but this is a very old-guard conceit. I think that the quicker young classical musicians stop writing chamber music and symphonies, and instead start making albums, the better. Sorry we’re butting heads! I hate being so cantankerous to strangers, but that’s all for now.
in general would agree with most everything he said. although i should point out that i wasn't too impressed with his instrumental "arrangements" for the arcade fire at their hollywood bowl show in sept. his combination of unison baritone horn, french horn and violin inspired my wife to comment "too bad the band has to bring their girlfriends on tour"
on the other hand i really enjoy all the energy that alex puts into writing about the ever growing classical music online community, but i see why his efforts to bring music the masses by way of writing about the mostly dead (in his book) are not my most important reading. i think it is interesting to note that if you compare the contents of his book to michael nyman's experimental music not much has changed since 1974. (more on that another time)
admittedly, i am prejudging his arguments before reading the book (or judging a book by its metaphorical cover), but my intuition says that train has already left the station. its easy to say that when a tune from lcd soundsystem means more to me than what is playing at my local concert hall i think there its fair to ask "the rest is noise?"

3 Comments:
Hey Paul,
I think Owen said some things a lot of us think about all the time. When I first got out of rock bands and started playing acoustic classical guitar, I left everything I had been behind: I became a purist... OK, a snob even. But, you know what? I wasn't having any fun and I wasn't making any money.
So, on a lark, and as a joke, I did an arrangement of Stairway to Heaven... yes, THAT Stairway to Heaven. Not only did people love it, but I ENJOYED PLAYING IT (I had learned it as a teenager). So, I learned Classical Gas, Yankee Doodle Dixie, AND STARTED WRITING SOME ROCK PIECES AGAIN.
Now, I play just a ton of that sort of stuff (I just arranged Jethro Tull's version of Bach's Bouree this month), and I'm having fun and getting hired for lots of gigs. And - pssst - guess what? Audiences are asking about my originals a lot now too.
I think anyone who is trying to "open the ears of the masses" to contemprary classical music are inded deluded. Name the decade several groups of people WEREN'T trying to do this? It didn't work before, and it won't work now.
Being true to yourself and having FUN with music making - which is the exact opposite of "selling out" - is the way to go, IMVHO, but a lot of people feel peer pressure to be "serious."
I didn't start playing guitar to be serious, I started playing because it was fun and I loved it. Well, that and getting laid.
Cheers,
George
while there a lot of classical people 'reaching out to the masses' out of a sense of dutiful superiority (classical music is good for you!), there are plenty of classical people who dig classical, pop, hip-hop, klezmer, souk, you name it, equally and are looking to reach out to similar souls, not out of dutiful superiority, but out of a sense of there's-got-to-be-more-freaks-like-me. i find all the hating and finger pointing on both sides so tiresome. 'classical people are snobs' 'classical people are square' 'classical music is dying' 'it's music by and for rich white people' 'hip-hop isn't music' 'that just sounds like screaming' 'that's not very sophisticated' and my favorites 'classical is really hard work that nobody actually enjoys' and 'rock and roll is pure fun that everybody enjoys' and on and on and on. that's right kids, all of classical music is pointless wanking designed to make the composer feel clever, but that NEVER happens in rock music! where is this getting anybody? i mean, of course i don't expect a huge audience for my chamber music, but because i can't have the level of fame that amy winehouse does that i just shouldn't bother? how does that make any sense? and opera has relevance to a large audience? what audience is this? oh, must be the opera on tap folks (http://operaontap.com)
so i'm sorry, maybe me and the other folks at Anti-Social Music are totally deluded, but we're having a heck of a good time. i've been approached by the masses several times in the past year who want to tell me how much they enjoyed the ASM show they went to. and we ain't playing stairway to heaven... things have changed in the classical world; some folks just choose not to see it. classical is not dead or dying any more than bluegrass, disco, punk, 30's jazz, or synthpop.
cheers,
andrea
andrea,
thanks for the comments. i'm sure we don't create music worrying about whether we it will have an audience, but i do think owen's point about whether classical music has "relevance" was fair (though i agree that all types of music should face that scrutiny). i take a pretty big view that not much has changed culturally since the early 70's. i might be mixing apples and oranges but i think the stagnation or art music and culture might be not just linked, but the fuel that is feeding each other's fires. jacques attali describes in his book noise.
"Collective consumption gives way to individualized accumulation. The collective is silenced. The jukebox replaces the café concert. (95) Spectacle is replaced by artificial pseudo-events. (90) Music consumption [as with food consumption in a system of fast food, as with television watching with cable TV] stops being a social event. [Without these regular social interactions and negotiations, we are not a community and we sacrifice our group solidarity for the sake of our individualized satisfactions"
it makes me think culturally we are like prometheus who has lost fire, until we find it we will not have any "relevance". the good news is that our little islands of art music are the front lines in this battle.
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